Ero arrivato in un luogo molto vasto, come una sala enorme e cavernosa con un buio pesto. Ero in piedi. Ma non riuscivo a trovarlo. Cercavo di toccare qualcosa, ma non trovavo niente. Mi resi conto che non riuscivo a trovare neanche il mio letto. Mi muovevo, ma non inciampavo in niente.
Non vedevo nemmeno la mano che mi ero portato davanti al volto. Faceva estremamente freddo. Aguzzai la vista per capire dove fossi; cercavo di orientarmi in questo nuovo ambiente. Allora mi resi conto di essere senza un corpo fisico, tuttavia ero ancora me stesso. Sentivo di avere un corpo, ma non potevo toccarlo. Ero un essere spirituale; il mio fisico era morto, eppure, mi sentivo vivo, cosciente di avere ancora braccia, gambe e testa, ma non riuscivo a toccarle.
Mentre mi trovavo in quel buio, un incredibile freddo e pericolo incombevano su di me. Mi sentivo osservato da presenze malvagie che mi circondavano. Io ero solito pensare ad esso come ad un luogo dove si possono fare tutte quelle cose che non si dovrebbero fare sulla terra.
Il libro di Giuda dice che il luogo delle tenebre fu preparato non per le persone, ma per gli angeli che disobbedirono a Dio. Non augurerei nemmeno al mio peggiore nemico, di trovarsi in un posto simile. Non avevo idea di come poterne uscire. Avevo pregato e chiesto a Dio di perdonarmi prima di morire. Questa luce mi infondeva un senso di leggerezza e venni innalzato dal suolo come un granello di polvere in un raggio di sole. II Corinzi Non volevo guardare dietro di me per paura di scivolare di nuovo nel buio. Ero molto felice di uscire da quelle tenebre e la luce oltre il tunnel era di un bagliore indescrivibile.
Quella luce vivente mi trasmetteva emozioni forti.
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La prima ondata mi diede calore e conforto insieme ad amore ed accettazione. Mi chiesi a questo punto come si presentava il mio corpo, che avevo tentato di vedere e toccare nel buio; con sorpresa mi accorsi che non solo lo vedevo, potevo addirittura vedere attraverso di esso! Ero trasparente. Il mio essere irradiava luce, come se questa fosse dentro di me, quella stessa luce che mi aspettava oltre il tunnel.
Alla terza onda luminosa fui pervaso da una gioia completa. Quando, alla fine del tunnel, mi trovai di fronte alla fonte di tutta la luce, la mia vista era completamente riempita da essa. Sembrava un fuoco bianco o una montagna di diamanti scintillanti. Quando scese il suo volto brillava. Ora io ero di fronte a questa gloria incredibile.
Avevo meditato su queste parole in quel tempo. Mi resi conto allora che la luce poteva venire solo da Dio. Cosa ci facevo io in questo luogo? Certo, non meritavo di essere qui. Compresi quindi che questo era Dio! Conosceva il mio nome e i pensieri segreti del mio cuore e della mia mente. Non sono molto buono. Dovrei sprofondare sotto il pavimento e ritornare al buio dove ero prima.
Invece di essere giudicato, venivo lavato con amore puro. Non mi ero sentito amato in quel modo da tanti anni, da quando ero a casa con i miei genitori. Avevo vissuto esperienze come il sesso, che pensavo fossero amore, ma non lo erano. Questo amore invece, guariva il mio cuore e io cominciavo a sentire di nuovo speranza. Le Sue vesti, composte non di tessuto terreno, ma di luce, arrivavano fino alle caviglie. Potevo vederne i piedi nudi.
Alzai gli occhi e notai il petto di un Uomo con le braccia aperte in segno di benvenuto. Al suo confronto, il sole sembrava di un giallo pallido e opaco. Sentii che la Sua purezza iniziava a penetrare dentro me. Con Lui anche la luce si mosse. Giovanni Sbirciando attraverso di essa, riuscivo a vedere un intero mondo aprirsi davanti a me. Era un luogo incontaminato. Un torrente di acqua cristallina si snodava tra i prati, con alberi su entrambe le rive.
I fiori risplendevano di colori meravigliosi. Era il Paradiso, io sapevo che appartenevo a quel posto. Lo avevo cercato dappertutto e ora ero a casa. Nessuno viene al Padre, se non per mezzo di Lui. Pochi lo trovano. Vidi mia madre. Ecco una persona che mi aveva amato ed anche pregato per me tutti i giorni della mia vita. Aveva cercato di mostrarmi Dio, ma nel mio orgoglio e arroganza avevo deriso il suo credo. Lei avrebbe ricevuto solo un corpo morto dalle isole Mauritius. Ero ritornato nel mio corpo. La mia testa era girata verso destra e avevo gli occhi aperti. Guardavo il giovane dottore indiano che punzecchiava il mio piede con uno strumento appuntito.
Cercava segni di vita senza accorgersi che lo stavo osservando. Le infermiere e gli assistenti, guardavano verso di me sorpresi e spaventati. Nessuno diceva una parola. Mi sentivo molto debole, chiusi gli occhi, ma li riaprii subito dopo per assicurarmi di essere vivo. Sentii un formicolio nelle gambe, accompagnato da una sensazione di calore che lentamente saliva fino al tronco e alle braccia. Dio mi stava guarendo. Al mio risveglio trovai il mio amico Simon e un altro ragazzo della Nuova Zelanda.
Ancora non potevano credere che fossi vivo. Ritornato al mio bungalow, esausto, mi misi a dormire. He announced that students would give a presentation of debate. Schoolchildren and local residents lined the road to greet him as his car drove through the villages of Chuchot Yakma, Chuchot Shama and Chuchot Gongma. Near the edge of the valley, the arid, sandy landscape gave way to neat walls around green fields punctuated by willow groves. The road began to climb, culminating at the entrance to Matho Monastery standing on a hilltop with a sweeping view back to Thiksey and Shey.
He was welcomed on arrival by local officials and members of the committee that had organized his visit. Tea and sweet rice were served. The Chairman, Ven Chosphel Zodpa, introduced the occasion. In addressing the people in attendance, His Holiness paid tribute to the volunteers from abroad, mostly doctors and nurses from the USA and dentists from Italy, who have been treating the local people.
He expressed appreciation of their dedication to providing health care where it was most needed in this remote and under-developed region. Dharamshala AsiaNews — Il Dalai Lama ha espresso profonda tristezza per la morte del dissidente cinese Liu Xiaobo e ha offerto le proprie condoglianze alla moglie Liu Xia e alla famiglia. The stand-off between India and Bhutan on one side and China on the other at Doklam, a tri-junction once between India, Tibet and Bhutan, and the larger border dispute between the two Asian giants, have their origins in the British invasion of Tibet in Liu era stato ricoverato nel Primo Ospedale di Shenyang, nella provincia nordorientale di Liaoning, dopo la scarcerazione per motivi di salute.
Solo il 23 maggio scorso, aveva riferito il mese scorso il suo avvocato Mo Shaoping, gli era stato diagnosticato il cancro al fegato in fase terminale: troppo tardi per salvargli la vita. Liu era uno dei prominenti intellettuali del dissenso in Cina; letterato, scrittore, critico letterario e docente universitario. Liu Xiaobo. I am deeply saddened to learn that fellow Nobel Laureate Liu Xiaobo has passed away while undergoing a lengthy prison sentence.
I offer my prayers and condolences to his wife, Liu Xia and to other members of his family. Although he is no longer living, the rest of us can best pay honor to Liu Xiaobo by carrying forward the principles he has long embodied, which would lead to a more harmonious, stable and prosperous China. July 14, With us is the incomparable Ganden Trisur Rinpoche, who when he occupied the Ganden Throne, when he was Abbot of Drepung and when he was Abbot of Gyumey Tratsang, the Lower Tantric College, worked tirelessly to improve the education of the monks under his care.
The Perfection of Wisdom Sutras are the principal teachings of the Buddha. Before taking his seat, His Holiness spent a couple of minutes listening to the nuns who were debating. It was based on prayers to the Sixteen Arhats, the Elders who promised to protect the doctrine of Buddha Shakyamuni. When the Long-Life Offering was complete, His Holiness explained that the Avalokiteshvara permission he was about to give derived from the visions of Tagphu Dorje Chang.
He remarked that Mitrayogi, who accomplished his practice in dependence on a similar Khasarpani Avalokiteshvara, had received empowerments and blessings from Avalokiteshvara himself, and Tagphu Dorje Chang had visions of the great yogi as well. Many years ago I was already living in Dharamsala and it was shortly before the outbreak of the Cultural Revolution. I dreamt I was in the Lhasa Jokhang, standing before an eleven-headed, thousand armed statue of Avalokiteshvara.
He beckoned to me with his eyes and I stepped forward and embraced him. He told me not to be discouraged but to keep on working as well as I could. Shortly afterwards the Cultural Revolution broke out and this statue was one of those destroyed. Fragments of it, including some of the heads, made their way to me in Dharamsala and are now kept safely in the temple there. These points relate to how to practise in this life, close to the time of death and in the intermediate state. You need to be diligent and fulfil the goal. This morning on his way to the teaching ground he stopped to perform a short consecration in the new assembly hall.
Before taking his seat he waved to the crowd to the left, right and straight ahead. I would like to thank everyone who sent kind greetings on the occasion of my 82nd birthday and who joined in celebrating the day in many parts of the world. It adopted an empirical approach, like science, which included a thorough knowledge of the workings of the mind and emotions that remains extremely relevant today.
These are commitments by which I abide myself, but I often ask brothers and sisters who show me affection and respect to consider joining me in upholding them. With my prayers and good wishes,. The Dalai Lama. Leh, Ladakh, 9 July Even crews of people working on the road stopped work to salute his passing by. Small children, their faces a picture of awe and affection, lined the way into the spacious auditorium, where students awaited their honoured guest. Principal P.
Belwal introduced His Holiness to the audience, and the Chairman of the Board gave a brief history of the school. He explained that it had grown from its foundation in as a kindergarten and now offers a broad, up to date education up to class Recent innovations to the curriculum include the study of Tibetan, dialectics and debate, as well as environmental studies. From there he walked to the teaching pavilion on the Shiwatsel ground. At the gate he encountered groups of Europeans and Indians who wished him a happy birthday.
He stopped to talk to them about the need to work for a happier more peaceful world by coming to grips with our disturbing emotions. He told them that clear advice about how to do this can be found in the knowledge of ancient India and that the time has come to revive it. Reaching the podium of the teaching pavilion, His Holiness greeted the growing crowd and told them that many friends in different parts of the world were celebrating his birthday.
After a short break celebrations resumed. His Holiness came down to the front of the stage to greet members of the audience and took his seat in an armchair. All stood for the Tibetan and Indian national anthems. Thinles Tsewang, President of the Ladakh Buddhist Association welcomed His Holiness, thanked him for coming, presented a gift to him to mark the occasion and assured him that all present prayed that he live long. A large iced cake was cut and distributed among the guests. The road was lined with groups of Ladakhis and Tibetans, including whole classes of school-children in their school uniform, who with smiling faces and folded hands were eager to salute him as he passed.
His Holiness got out of his car in the Leh bazaar and walked to the Jokhang gate, shaking hands and exchanging greetings with members of the public as he went. He paid attention to the elderly and infirm seated just inside the gate and greeted old friends on his way to the Main Temple. Once inside he paid his respects before the images of Maitreya, Buddha Shakyamuni, Avalokiteshvara and others and took his seat facing the altar.
A prayer to the Buddha was recited and tea served. His Holiness noted with pleasure that most of the congregation joined in, reciting by heart, and asked if they also knew the Heart Sutra, which was chanted too. Backstage he met and comforted the elderly and infirm. The event began with a representative delivering a citation from the Governor of Massachusetts, another presenting a gift from the Mayor of Boston and the President of the Boston Tibetan Association making his report. His Holiness began,. Like Tibetans everywhere, you are keeping the spirit of Tibet alive.
In India we have the CTA. Major monasteries have been re-established and are thriving. Tibetans in exile are scattered all over the world, but wherever we are we form local communities, as you have done here, to preserve our identity and traditions. Those who live in free countries outside Tibet have a responsibility to keep up our spirits to encourage our brothers and sisters in Tibet who remain impressively determined. But they are not free to do what they want. There needs to be equality.
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What has since held us together is our common religion, culture and language. While remaining within the PRC we want genuine autonomy so we can continue to keep our culture, language and traditions alive. His Holiness then briefly met with them, other Mayors and government representatives before they all took to the stage. I saw the mountains, filled my lungs with the pure air and encountered the warmth of the Tibetan people—but they are not free. I received a letter from the Chinese consulate pressuring me not to meet with you, Your Holiness. China is a powerful country, no doubt, but the USA is powerful too and free.
Phayul, 23 giugno English article,Phayul:. In the auditorium, Tani Austin introduced the panel to an audience of about politicians, businessmen and women and Starkey employees. In describing His Holiness as needing no introduction Mrs Austin meant that everyone in the room had heard his name, but she said she wanted to read a summary of his life so they would also understand something about him.
Co-founder Tani Austin and her sons welcomed him on arrival and escorted him into the facility where Bill Austin was ready to show him around. Certainly one of the two things must be [correct]. The Hindu says: We cannot both speak the truth, because if the cloth is black then i will speak the truth and you a falsehood, because you call it white. Rather brahma created it. The supreme god himself does not preserve the world. Rather Vishnu preserves it. The supreme god himself does not cause any destruction. Rather Mahadeva causes destruc- tion. They say that the supreme god himself created the earth.
He himself preserves it. He himself, when he wishes, destroys it. Moreover, they say that there is no brahma; there is no Vishnu; there is no Mahadeva. All are false. You see that these words are contradictory. Your and our words cannot both be true. The Hindu says: You speak correctly. Your and our reli- gions cannot both be true. You should request the true supreme god to give you the wis- dom to understand what is true and what is false. The Hindu says: What you say seems to me a good idea.
Construct a debate between both religions. The Christian says: first we will discuss how the Chris- tians conceptualize the supreme god and how the Hindus conceptualize him. He has no defect or fault and cannot have any. He has no beginning and will have no end. He always existed and always will exist. He knows everything. Nothing is hidden from him. Gi: spirito. He has no parts and cannot have any. He can [do] anything, that is, whatever he wants [to do] he can do. The sun, the moon, men, animals, birds, plants, grasses: everything is from the supreme god.
And just as he himself creates [everything], so he preserves, he conserves, everything through his own ininite Providence. Thus it is written in all the Christian scriptures. And thus all the Christian Fathers teach. Moreover, they say that brahma, Vishnu, Mahadeva, and also all the deities and the souls are all parts of the supreme god. Whatever happens in heaven and in the world is done by the deities. And they say that the supreme God from his own parts created brahma, Vishnu, and Mahadeva. About this your scriptures and pandits say difer- ent things.
For this reason the supreme God gave three slaps on the hand of [this goddess] Mahamaya. From those three balls brahma, Vishnu and Mahesa were created. As she ran about, sweat began to drip from her forehead. From that sweat brahma appeared. From this she created Vishnu. The third time she wiped of the sweat Mahadeva was created from it. They say that brahma, Vishnu and Mahesa were created from the womb of a woman. And still other pandits and other scriptures declare still otherwise. The bairagi [ascetics]14 14 it is not clear who these bairagis are. Perhaps they are Ramanandis. You will see how they will explain [things].
You will not ind three or four pandits who will say the same thing. The pandits say disparate things. The scriptures speak dif- ferently. Finally how can you accept15 that the pandits speak correctly? How then can the supreme God declare so many contradictory things in scriptures? And if the scriptures are not correct, then the pandits also cannot speak correctly. Then how can your religion be correct? The Christian says: good. Listen to my reply. What you call greatness and dignity is not dignity at all.
Listen and understand. Let there be two emperors. The minister preserves him by registering the tax collections of the country. The stew- ard keeps the money [f. The police oicers and the soldiers take care of the security of the country. They remove the enemy. The spies bring the news from all directions. Through his own intelligence he does everything cor- rectly. He is so powerful that he can defeat lakhs and crores of men by his own hand.
And without spies he knows everything that happens in his own country and in the countries of others. Will you praise that emperor who needs many attendants to help him rule or will you praise that emperor who by his own power and his own understanding does everything himself? The Hindu says: i consider the emperor who can do every- thing by himself to be greater.
The Christian says: You have decided well. You should decide in similar fashion between my supreme God and yours. When they sought revenge for this, Rama killed them and their army of 14, single-handedly. He himself creates. He himself destroys. He himself gives riches. He himself gives sickness and health. There exists nothing powerful enough in the heavens or on earth which can stop whatever it is that my supreme god desires to do. He knows every- thing without spies. The hearts of men, the cares of men: he knows them all.
He him- self rewards good persons. He himself punishes sinners. Another preserves. A third destroys. Even these three deities are themselves unable to set in motion all business. They need other attendants [to help them], and many times these make unsuccessful eforts and can- not accomplish what they want to accomplish. When your supreme God wants to kill ravana, then it is necessary for Vishnu to take his Rama avatar.
Rama has to dwell in the forest. There [in the forest], how many sorrows and perils befell him? He searched everywhere, but he did not have enough divine power to accomplish his task. He needed the help of sugriva and Hanuman. He also needed the armies of monkeys and bears. When your supreme God wants to save Mahadeva from the hand of bhasmasura, he cannot save him without resorting to a trick. And you will see that many times they are unable to accomplish what they wish to do. Your supreme God or my supreme God? How many cares will befall him? My supreme god is not like that.
He has distributed the tasks to the deities. He has inished with the cares of the world. For this reason he sits blissfully in heaven. The Christian says: i beg your pardon, brother. Your words are not worthy of you. You consider the supreme god to be something very small. You make him like a man. Lis- 20 although Vishnu is closely associated with the cosmic serpent shesha, this serpent is not usually considered to be an avatar. Evidently here the snake is a mistake for the ish avatar.
The supreme god is ininite. For this reason, the supreme god has no diiculties in creating [the world]. To care for and preserve [the world] is no trouble for him. The supreme god is present in everything. Through it, he can do anything he wants. Look among men. He who has greater intelligence has to labor little to carry out an order. Whether the task is small or great, he quickly provides [what is needed].
How can you believe that he will have trouble or will have to labor in setting in motion the business of the world? Likewise, in this way no toil befalls our supreme God in setting in motion the business of heaven and of this world. Whatever my supreme god wants quickly happens according to his wish. The Christian says: You have made a correct judgment. This is because the supreme god is ininitely perfect in all his qualities guna. Rather he must be ininitely perfect. The Hindu says: This is true. For this reason he cannot have any bad qualities. And his reign also cannot be imperfect.
He himself gives pleasure and pain, as the Christian scriptures declare. For this reason you must also accept that the Hindu scriptures do not tell the truth when they teach that the supreme Light itself does not set in motion the business of heaven and the world, [f. The stories about brahma, Vishnu and Mahadeva must also be false, because the supreme God himself is the one who reigns.
The Hindu says: your words are very convincing, but how can i call our own scriptures and our own deities false? The Christian says: How can you say this? They accept other scriptures and other deities, ones diferent from your deities and your scriptures. And then travel on to China and great China. And everyone explains the creation of the world in ways opposed to your scriptures. The persons of other countries all follow other diferent religions.
Moreover, how many Muslims are there in this empire who do not accept your scriptures and your deities?
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For these reasons we ask you [to consider this]. Those peoples are much more numer- ous than the Hindus. Can they all be mistaken? Can only what you people believe be the truth? They are established in all four quarters of the earth. Tartary or Tatary or Russia. Perhaps the two correspond to the distinction between Tibet i. Western Tibet , and great Tibet i.
And there are also cit- ies and islands in which everyone is Christian. There are also many Christians in Tonkin and in the country of siam. For this reason you can see that there are many more Christians than Hin- dus. Moreover, if you believe your own religion to be cor- rect because many persons follow the Hindu religion, then our Christian religion should be truer and stronger than the Hindu religion because Christians are much more numer- ous. The supreme god alone should be the proof 24 The reference is to Constantinople-istanbul and the ottoman Empire.
The mean- ing is roughly the same 27 gi here adds Pegu to Tonkin and siam. Rather we [f. For this reason, if we know for cer- tain that the supreme God has revealed something, and if we believe what the supreme God has declared, then our religion will be correct, even if the whole world follows a contrary religion. The Hindu says: You have spoken the truth. Now listen and understand. We do not follow our religion on [the basis of the number of] persons [who follow it]. Rather if we Hindus believe that brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the preserver, and Mahadeva is the destroyer and believe in other deities as well, we believe in these [gods] because the Hindu scriptures declare it so.
And the supreme god cannot teach contradictory things. Rather if the supreme god once reveals something, that thing [f. For this reason, the supreme god cannot set in motion the business of the world by means of other deities. That woman gave birth to three sons, namely brahma, Vishnu and Mahadeva. And this woman assumed three forms that became the wives of the three sons.
Moreover, in your scriptures it is written that once brahma together with [his wife] gayatri spoke false words to bhavani. As a result of that ofense, bhavani cursed brahma, [declaring] that he would not be worshipped nor would there be temples [dedicated to him]. For this reason brahma has no worship or temples. Moreover, it is written in your scriptures [f.
After that ascetic penance, he heard that the women of a [certain] town were very beautiful. For this reason he went there naked28 in order to beg alms. And he made a mantra so that all the women of that town would leave their homes and husbands and go of with him.
They got angry at Mahadeva and gave him a curse. Lis- ten now to my words and understand. The three are your creator, preserver, and destroyer. And the Hindu scriptures call [each of] the three the supreme god. Now tell me sincerely. How can we accept as the supreme God deities of this sort who speak falsehoods, who marry their own mother, [f.
How can we accept that deities of this sort are the supreme God? And if we ofer worship and homage to this sort of deities, how is it possible that the pure supreme Light will be pleased? The Hindu says: it is true. Just the opposite. They committed big sins. And many times they were punished for their own sins. Listen now to me. How then can it be that the supreme God will command people to worship and ofer homage to such shameless dei- ties?
Moreover, what sort of an example will they give to the world? What person will be ashamed of commit- ting adultery if he sees that his own deities, who he ofers homage, also committed such actions? Read and think about your own scriptures. Then Vishnu took the form of a brahmin [dwarf] and went to bali. And [the dwarf] deceitfully requested three and one half paces of land. Then he kicked bali.
From the force of the kick, the king fell into the underworld. There his goodness was lost. The nymph went to the sage and made him abandon his asceticism. And the nymph had a daughter by the sage. The nymph took the form of a [mortal] woman and went to the sage kandu. Now you should deinitely tell me. Do your deities properly set in motion the business of the world? Their asceticism and their dharma were pleasing to the supreme god. Moreover, if your deities seek to make people abandon dharma and asceticism, [f.
Will you say that they are servants of the supreme God or servants of satan? Moreover, consider what sort of rewards your dei- ties give to their own servants sevaka. For this reasons the Pandavas fought with Drupada. They took his kingdom and entrusted it to their own guru. Drupada became enraged at Dronacarya and per- formed a penance in order to obtain a son who would take revenge on Dronacarya. And he obtained a son from the deities. And he told her that when she wanted to take her pleasure with anyone, she should recite the mantra and call him. At that very moment the person would come to take pleasure with her.
For this rea- son, kunti, by the power of that mantra, obtained sons with various deities. And as a reward for that penance, she requested to Mahadeva that she be the wife of ive men.
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Now think about this. The supreme god prohibits men from making justice and taking revenge among themselves. The supreme god prohibits all bad conduct. The supreme Light prohib- its women from taking two husbands at once. Will not that story produce bad thoughts in his heart?
Mahadeva also gave his word that anyone who serves his linga will get salvation. You yourself can see that this sort of dei- ties cannot exist in heaven. You know that the supreme god created heaven and hell. He created heaven for the righteous: the ascetics, those who have one wife, the vir- tuous, and the abstemious. For this reason when we see someone who is vin- dictive, proud and does bad deeds, we call him a satan.
Moreover, if your deities are wanton and doers of bad deeds, then they cannot be deities or heavenly because heaven was created for the righteous, the ascetics, and those who have one wife. For this reason, if your deities [f. And if you take their names or worship them, then you are deceived. And if brahma, Vishnu and Mahadeva are parts of the supreme Light, as the Hindu scriptures declare, then they ought to be good, stainless, and pure like the 35 gi p.
How can one ind righteous, ascetic, virtuous, and doers of good deeds in this world if there is such a diference between deities and men? The Christian says: You are quite deceived. Look at this divine power and these virtues which your scriptures attri- bute to your deities. From this you will have to understand the falsehood of your scriptures and your deities.
Please listen to what i say. The marvelous work and the battles that your deities had with the demons took place in this world. The demons were many and sometimes they were so many that the earth could not support their weight, as it is written in your scriptures. The body of a demon was not small. They did not stay hidden either. Rather they were present everywhere, and in the time of the kamsa the demons were many.
Moreover if the demon kings ruled one lakh countries, surely news of them should have spread throughout the whole world. How can it be that the battle of Lanka—if it involved many bears, monkeys, demons and warriors as your scriptures declare— is known [only] in this country? From there they bring cinnamon, and all the persons who come from that island say that the houses of Lanka are not made of gold and silver. Rather they are houses like those of this country.
Rather the people there are similar to the people of this country. Rather the king there is a mortal who dies like the kings of other countries. The Hindu says: What? The king of Lanka dies? There houses there are not made of gold and silver? The Christian says: if you do not believe me, then go to the factory of the men of Holland in Patna. The men of Holland, [f.
You know that Lanka is an island. Your scrip- tures declare that it has a circumference of ive thousand kosa. For this rea- son only one or two demons would be able to it on one [square] kosa of land. This would bring the demons down to much more reasonable numbers. The Hindu says: the demons could, however they wished, make their bodies big or small. For this reason, at that time they must have assumed small bodies. The Christian says: your answer is not in agreement with your scriptures, because your scriptures declare that when the demons went to ight with the monkeys, they had assumed terrifying forms and attacked making great roar- ing sounds in order to frighten the monkeys.
From this you can understand the falsity of your own scriptures and of the battle of Lanka, because [f. Moreover, you should consider that each demon had a wife and children. Moreover, you should note that the demons ate a great deal. Every six months, kumbhakarana drank a crore pots of liqueur and ate [a crore] bufaloes. Do the calculation. For this reason, you should analyze if so many demons, monkeys and bears could it in ive thousand [square] kosa [of land]. Moreoever, you know that kumbhakarana was also on Lanka. Your scriptures declare that his body was three hun- dred kosa [tall].
For this reason, you should think about this and make the calculation. You will see that very little land will remain empty for those two big armies. From this, you can understand the falsity of your own scriptures and of the battle of Lanka. He would have said that Lanka [f. Now give me an answer. The measure of the size of Lanka is merely ive thousand [square] kosa. The Hindu says: i feel that the island was very small to it so many persons.
The Christian says: if the two big armies of rama and of Ravana could not have it on Lanka, then you should admit that those two armies were never in Lanka. Moreover, you should admit that the battle of Lanka between Rama and ravana, as it is described in your scriptures, was a battle that never took place. From this you should understand that your other deities must also be false, because if the Rama avatar is false, then sita, Lakshmana, and Hanuman must also be false.
The Parasurama avatar must also be false, because the Hindu scriptures declare that parasurama fought with rama when rama broke the bow at the place of the sage Janaka. The italian version gi, pp. For this reason your scriptures must all be false, because rama appears in all the Hindu scriptures and all give news about the battle of Lanka. What reply can you give us about this battle? The Hindu says: even i cannot understand how such a big battle could have occurred in such a small place. The Christian says: Moreover, we will consider the battles of other deities as they are described in the Hindu scrip- tures.
He also con- quered indra. Having got this big boon, they both went to heaven to ight with indra. The sun and the moon and many deities led and went to brahma to ask for help. They requested that brahma protect them. For this pur- pose, [f. After this, brahma sent her to the two brothers. When they saw the beautiful maiden, both were astounded and each wanted her for himself.
For the sake of the maiden, the brothers both fought with each other and both were killed. From this, he got sick. Agni was frightened and led. He again returned to brahma to make a request. When krishna and Arjuna will take their avatars, then you should make your request to them. They will protect you. Arjuna gave him this [f. You should eat the remedy there. Agni then set it on ire. There was an uproar in the garden. The news reached indra that the garden had caught ire.
They could not rain. To help indra, the sun, Varuna, Yama, and many other deities took up their weapons and arrived there. The deities then made greater eforts but it was useless. All the deities together could not stop them. Agni burned up the entire lower garden. For this reason heaven ought to always be [f.
And heaven becomes for them a foreign country so that they can save their own lives. Afterwards they request help from other deities in order to get back their own kingdom. How then can you believe that there can be such [f. Moreover, if the deities set in motion the business of heaven and earth will ight among themselves, then how can there be in all things in heaven and earth that excellent design that we always see. We see that the sun, the moon, the planets and the stars all move according to an excellent design that never changes at all. The rain waters the earth. The wind dries it.
The sun warms it. The earth always produces grain for people and grass for animals. Men, animals, and birds are always being created. The Hindu says: Your words are very powerful. For this rea- son envy, anger, and deceit cannot reach there. And if our deities ight among themselves, then i too know that the excellent design of the things of heaven and earth will not endure, as we continually see. The Christian says: Just consider this. The Hindu says: i am sure that the palace will never be inished, and if it is built then there will be no proper design in the rooms, in the doors, or in any other place.
The Christian says: Now you decide. And from this you will have to understand the truth of the Christian religion that there is one eternal supreme God who himself sets in motion the business of heaven and earth.
He does not ight with any- one. Rather everyone is subject to his command, and what- ever he wants will happen. Rather all the deities are like emperors, and each does his own work. What one deity wants, another does not do it. A small one even punishes and curses a big one. And curses many times befall even the big deities, as they befell brahma, Vishnu and Mahesa. For this you must understand that among your deities there is no single chief. The Hindu says: What you say is true.
The Christian says: those boons that you claim the ser- vants of the deities have gotten from their own deities are all false. And if they get what they requested, then those boons were gotten by means of deceit or sorcery, as you will understand from what i have said. He writes all that. And once a thing has been written, so willy-nilly it must happen. The Christian says: Well then. Reply to my question.
Moreover, [brahma] had also written whether or not that person would die from the sickness or be cured. No deity could erase what had been written. For this reason i ask you. And no deity could have killed him. Rather he was cured because it was written on his forehead that he would be cured. For this reason you see that no deity can give any boon to persons. The Hindu says: i have no answer to what you have said, because our scriptures do say this.
And afterwards those very scriptures com- mand performing service to the deities and worshipping them in order to get some boon. This is because your worship and all the dharma that you do in the name of your deities will not be able to give you sons, prosperity and joys.