Comment by Cadi Price posted on on 06 January It's brilliant the work all these volunteers are doing in Telford. Comment by Environment Agency posted on on 07 January Comment by Vicki Howden posted on on 06 January Comment by kewill posted on on 13 January Its commendable to see such outcomes, however the problems are historical in the main and the causes have without doubt been statutory neglect by the regulatory bodies responsible and they well know it and should hang their head in shame.
Now such projects get a big handshake and applause and lots of public media attention because the work is being carried out by the groups who are staffed by volunteers and are doing a grand job for free thus saving the public purse. The fact that voluntary groups are carrying out water quality sampling having identified such problems as Cross connections of drain to surface water systems shows the lack of resources available from the EA who should be doing the Walk instead of the Talk in conjunction with local authorities who are just as responsible for such oversight.
The professionals are getting their responsibilities done for little expenditure other than for advisory time and some equipment loans when such issues should have been noted by prior dedicated attention to detail and oversight by the Environment Regulators rather than having to address the problems much later as a consequence of long term neglect - a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted!! Comment by Tom posted on on 13 January It's always easy to look at history and point the finger, Kewill. We could always blame Henry VIII for the state of the Clergy or Queen Victoria for the state of our cities, but there is very little to be gained from that.
Would you rather nothing be done? What does it matter if volunteers do the work and it makes it cheaper for the authorities? I've volunteered before on conservation projects and I found it very gratifying.
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Do you think volunteering is wrong or something? You just sound bitter. Tom, I find your remark involving centuries old characters rather hollow I've spent over 30 years in the water industry and taken more water quality samples than you may have had hot dinners I'm also very aware of the shortcomings in the present day regime and its nothing short of a scandal that our waterways were allowed to get in such a state in the first instance. I might add that As a committed angler I've always done my part and know what I achieved both privately and publicly though I had a lot of experience to draw on.
It's always been my view that the use of volunteers has always been problematic as its led to one inescapable outcome, the eventual downsizing of experienced full time officers and in fisheries management and water quality control. Comment by Tom posted on on 15 January Whilst I do not doubt the credentials you felt it necessary to proclaim, it appears you are quick to criticise and assign blame your defensive response aside without offering any suggestion of how the problems you describe can be resolved.
Are you saying "The damage is done, our rivers are a state so lord help us all" or do you actually have anything constructive to say? Comment by kewill posted on on 19 January The problem has always lain with those that are supposed to manage. They have found ways to use funding for projects that have been "the nice to do tasks" and not got the real day to day work sorted!
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I'm sure Tom that had you ever worked within the EA, you would have a grip on reality and what has been some issues of neglect and poor oversight. Such issues are poor C S O licensing where storm sewage has been allowed to pollute watercourses without redress despite condemnation by the angling community at large and fish stocks lost, another is large scale cutting back of backside trees and vegetation to facilitate flood reduction,especially in areas of urban development where housing should never have been built in the 1st instance on flood plains, matters all under the EA oversight,so I'd say rightly that considerable damage has been done and the lessons never learnt to date.
I still contend that volunteers are cheap shot at getting any work done for free,I'm not Unionist, but the cut backs in feet on the ground and the knowledge lost is unforgivable and yet managers continue to proliferate! Comment by Roy posted on on 20 May The EA wasn't a statutory consultee on planning consents for development in the past, which could have contributed to the modern day development on our floodplains.
So I don't think that EA oversight is sole cause - more the need to develop at any cost. CSOs are a necessary pressure valve on sewerage systems that have become overloaded by storm run-off, and in a lot of cases are prevent domestic systems backing up and raw sewerage backing up into people's houses. Until any new developments have to take in to account sustainable drainage, pressure on the sewerage system and local drainage systems then we will keep adding to the pressure and CSO linked pollution incidents will keep happening, and the latest planning regulations have been weakened in this regard.
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